[Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail and SORBS

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 05:55:28 -0000
"johan" <johan.ostensson@gmail.com>
Subject: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail and SORBS
Wrote these words of wisdom:

>
> shreek wrote:
> > You can go to www.sorbs.net to know more about SORBS
> > My question is: Has anyone had any problems with sending gmails to
> > addresses using the SORBS service? All my gmails are bouncing back
> > because the intended recepient's company is using SORBS (and believe it
> > or not, the recepient uses only one email, the company address). I have
> > tried to resolve the issue by going to the support page on
> > www.sorbs.net but so far my problem stands.
> > I would appreciate any feedback from people who have actually used
> > SORBS or have had problems and resolution with it. When it talks about
> > 'the host' does it refer to me, my ISP or GMail (Google)?
>
> Yes, I have the same problem. Very annoying and it is slowly forcing me
> away from GMail.
>
> According to http://foo-projects.org/node/27 the problem is that GMail
> doesnt wanna put their users IP in outgoing mail. Which sounds like a
> good thing.
>
> But I still have to mail a lot of people who are using SORBS and I cant
> do much about it. Being blocked like this sucks.
>
> /johan

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On 12/19/2005 12:20:46 PM, Gerard Seibert Replied:

Did you actually read the entire article at the URL you posted. They
claim to have discovered 419 I believe SPAMers on GMail.

Google is playing the lone wolf strategy in this scenario. Not a very
wise idea since it hurts its subscriber base (Gmail) in this case. If
Microsoft were to try and pull a stunt like this, the Microsoft pundits
would be having a field day.

I fail to see why Google is refusing to use the users IP though. The IP
will only resolve back to the users ISP anyway. I know that a user could
set up their own name servers and get their ISP to lease two dedicated
IPs to them, but most users do not go that route, especially Microsoft
users. Dedicated IPs usually fall into the realm of businesses, etc. In
any case, if they are running their own name server - BIND, and mail
server, their IP is going to be broadcast anyway.

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